Bin Laden Show 00: DNA Testing Fraud

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Bert Laden was buried at sea within 24 hours of being gunned down in what was probably a CIA safehouse set up with help from Blackwater.  Claims by the White House and CIA that DNA confirmation of his identity are bogus.

DNA tests take 3-10 days to run and are not something that can be done in flight or at sea.

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How Long Does DNA Testing Take?

SUMMARY in a HURRY: How Long Does DNA Testing Take?. How was DNA testing done on Osama bin Laden's body in less than 24 hours?

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How Long Does DNA Testing Take?  How was DNA testing done on Osama bin Laden's body in less than 24 hours?.

First, to do DNA matches you need to have DNA samples you know came from the person.  For example, if you want to know if a dead person is, let's say Osama bin Laden, you must have known samples from Osama bin Laden.  You first need to ask – how do I really know the comparative samples I have came from Osama bin Laden?  The answer is you don't.  The USA has no samples of Osama bin Laden's DNA.  The government did have samples from several relatives of Osama bin Laden.  If the DNA testing was done abord the ship, the best it could do wuld be to show someing in UBL's family was killed.

If you know your sample is good, you can continue with the DNA testing.  Even simple DNA testing for the purpose of proving parentage takes at least 3 days.Source: http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/forensics.shtml

   DNA testing is done by taking DNA extracts from biological testing, putting them into a gel matrix and then using probes to help extract certain markers. Most DNA tests are run at least twice, both independent of each other. This not only builds upon the credibility of the test but also helps ensure that no wrong data or incorrect marker analysis was performed on the first test. If any discrepancies are detected between the two tests then a new sample is used (when samples are collected there is usually an abundance of DNA present) and the entire test is performed again to understand where the discrepancy may lay. A majority of Courts, do not approve of the use of non laboratory testing as evidence. This is because the accuracy of the samples collected cannot be guaranteed – if there is any area where the accuracy of a DNA test can be affected it is in the sample collection process. When non-laboratory tests are performed there is no way for a court to guarantee the samples came from who they say they did. In this situation court-approved testing involves the use of collection of the samples by licensed personnel who also verify the identity of the person who is providing the samples.   Of course, as with anything in life human error can come into play. Even a DNA lab may mistakenly switch samples or key in data incorrectly. All of these factors are possible, but also are very rare in occurrence. If there is ever any doubt as to the authenticity or correctness of a test it can simply be performed again to confirm accuracy.

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Requirements for doing forensic DNA testing are quite high and unlikely to be available on a helicopter or a ship at sea.
Source: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/lab/codis/stds_testlabs

If you have the laboratory,  known good source taken from the person in the past, and tissue from the dead person, you can then do an analysis.  The key to the analysis is something known as the PCR (polymerase chain reaction).  PCR is a method to analyze a short sequence of DNA (or RNA) even in samples containing only minute quantities of DNA or RNA. PCR is used to reproduce (amplify) selected sections of DNA or RNA. Previously, amplification of DNA involved cloning the segments of interest into vectors for expression in bacteria, and took weeks.

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It is true that new procedures run by certified people in land-based accredited labs, by certified personnel can now be done in hours, but not likely in a helicopter or ship at sea.
Source: http://www.medicinenet.com/pcr_polymerase_chain_reaction/article.htm

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The test itself takes 5 to 10 days to run the test itself, and the type also has something to do with it at times.

There is more than one type of DNA comparison.

Restriction Fragment Length Polymorphism (RFLP,RFLP is a technique for analyzing the variable lengths of DNA fragments that result from digesting a DNA sample with a special kind of enzyme. This enzyme, a restriction endonuclease, cuts DNA at a specific sequence pattern know as a restriction endonuclease recognition site. The presence or absence of certain recognition sites in a DNA sample generates variable lengths of DNA fragments, which are separated using gel electrophoresis. They are then hybridized with DNA probes that bind to a complementary DNA sequence in the sample.

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RFLP was one of the first applications of DNA analysis to forensic investigation. With the development of newer, more efficient DNA-analysis techniques, RFLP is not used as much as it once was because it requires relatively large amounts of DNA. In addition, samples degraded by environmental factors, such as dirt or mold, do not work well with RFLP.

PCR Analysis,Polymerase chain reaction (PCR) is used to make millions of exact copies of DNA from a biological sample. DNA amplification with PCR allows DNA analysis on biological samples as small as a few skin cells. With RFLP, DNA samples would have to be about the size of a quarter. The ability of PCR to amplify such tiny quantities of DNA enables even highly degraded samples to be analyzed. Great care, however, must be taken to prevent contamination with other biological materials during the identifying, collecting, and preserving of a sample.

STR Analysis,Short tandem repeat (STR) technology is used to evaluate specific regions (loci) within nuclear DNA. Variability in STR regions can be used to distinguish one DNA profile from another. The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) uses a standard set of 13 specific STR regions for CODIS. CODIS is a software program that operates local, state, and national databases of DNA profiles from convicted offenders, unsolved crime scene evidence, and missing persons. The odds that two individuals will have the same 13-loci DNA profile is about one in a billion.

Mitochondrial DNA Analysis, Mitochondrial DNA analysis (mtDNA) can be used to examine the DNA from samples that cannot be analyzed by RFLP or STR. Nuclear DNA must be extracted from samples for use in RFLP, PCR, and STR; however, mtDNA analysis uses DNA extracted from another cellular organelle called a mitochondrion. While older biological samples that lack nucleated cellular material, such as hair, bones, and teeth, cannot be analyzed with STR and RFLP, they can be analyzed with mtDNA. In the investigation of cases that have gone unsolved for many years, mtDNA is extremely valuable.

All mothers have the same mitochondrial DNA as their offspring. This is because the mitochondria of each new embryo comes from the mother's egg cell. The father's sperm contributes only nuclear DNA. Comparing the mtDNA profile of unidentified remains with the profile of a potential maternal relative can be an important technique in missing-person investigations.

Y-Chromosome Analysis ,The Y chromosome is passed directly from father to son, so analysis of genetic markers on the Y chromosome is especially useful for tracing relationships among males or for analyzing biological evidence involving multiple male contributors.

So with all that testing you can see it could take some time.

Hope that answers your question. Be well..

Phi Beta Iota:  Of course it can be claimed that a very highly classified test can be done by one Navy Seal using one test tube, a matching DNA will glow in the dark, but this is utter tripe.  It is our view that JSOG was unwitting, and also lacked professional intelligence advisors that would have pointed out the idiocy of launching SEALS far inland when five guys with silencers could have done the job, bagged the body, and shipped it back for forensics analysis without a fuss.  The truth will come out–and when it does, we hope the SEALS are very, very angry.

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