Chuck Spinney: Should US Leave Afghanistan? Is BBC Out of Its Mind? Robert Steele Comments

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Chuck Spinney
Chuck Spinney

The attached BBC report/video by John Simpson describing Afghan attitudes toward the US/UK exit struck me as bizarre.  The weight of Simpson’s gist is that most Afghans do not want us to leave.  But the report based most of its information on interviews in Kabul and only a short part (the wobbly part) on the countryside where the vast majority of Afghans live — i.e., Helmand.  Simpson did not mention of Taliban strongholds in Kandahar and the border areas with Pakistan,nor did he mention the western areas like Herat, or the Northern areas.  So I asked an Afghan friend who follows events in Afghanistan closely for his take on this report.  Attached below the video link is my friend’s reaction and a NYT piece with yellow highlights.

(BBC) The BBC’s world affairs editor John Simpson visited Kabul, a city he knows well, to discover what shape Afghan government forces are in and whether the Taliban could take over after UK and American troops leave.
Email from Mr. X 
(a highly educated Afghan — ethnic Pashtun — an expat living in Europe)
The latest John Simpson crude puffery reporting from Kabul was advertised on the BBC web site, to be shown on Britain’s BBC One channel later tonight – I watched the preview this morning, was underwhelmed by its ‘analysis’, and moved on to watch the debate programmes on Tolo domestic TV, in Dari and Pashtu; these tend to be more interesting and more reliable indicators of the situation in Afghanistan, and possible future scenarios.
The demographic distribution of Afghanistan has been changed by the on-going war. Kabul’s normal population of 350,000 has increased to over 4.5 million, mostly made of Afghanistan’s ethnic minorities. For example, there are almost more Hazaras in Kabul than there are in Hazarajat, more Panjsheris there than in Panjsher: the physiognomy and language of all those interviewed by Simpson in Kabul is telling.
Moreover, the fact that apart from the moron in police uniform, there wasn’t a single Pashtun amongst the people interviewed speaks volumes.
By the way, the BBC Corporation has been hit by a series of scandals, the most recent being the discovery that it’s been the long-standing centre of various paedophile rings … maybe that’s why the BBC appears sympathetic to the paedophiles that are currently in and around power in Kabul!
Finally, the recent piece in the NY Times, [CS: attached below] in which the Pentagon et al. now base their arguments for keeping troops in Afghanistan, because it would serve U.S. interests by enabling the U.S. to act if anything untoward should happen in the region in the future, particularly with respect to Pakistan’s (and by implication Iran’s) nuclear activities, has had a very negative effect in Afghanistan: the Afghan ‘talking heads’ now say that all the noble reasons given by the U.S., for invading and occupying the country, were completely false, and that Karzai is justified in questioning American motives and intentions. [CS note: Bear in mind, my friend despises Karzai and his grotesquely corrupt regime.]

Afghanistan Exit Is Seen as Peril to Drone Mission

By DAVID E. SANGER and ERIC SCHMITT, New York Times, JAN. 26, 2014

WASHINGTON — The risk that President Obama may be forced to pull all American troops out of Afghanistan by the end of the year has set off concerns inside the American intelligence agencies that they could lose their air bases used for drone strikes against Al Qaeda in Pakistan and for responding to a nuclear crisis in the region.

Until now, the debate here and in Kabul about the size and duration of an American-led allied force in Afghanistan after 2014 had focused on that country’s long-term security. But these new concerns also reflect how troop levels in Afghanistan directly affect long-term American security interests in neighboring Pakistan, according to administration, military and intelligence officials.

The concern has become serious enough that the Obama administration has organized a team of intelligence, military and policy specialists to devise alternatives to mitigate the damage if a final security deal cannot be struck with the Afghan president, Hamid Karzai, who has declined to enact an agreement that American officials thought was completed last year.

Defiance by President Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan has lent new credence to an option.

If Mr. Obama ultimately withdrew all American troops from Afghanistan, the C.I.A.’s drone bases in the country would have to be closed, according to administration officials, because it could no longer be protected.

Their concern is that the nearest alternative bases are too far away for drones to reach the mountainous territory in Pakistan where the remnants of Al Qaeda’s central command are hiding. Those bases would also be too distant to monitor and respond as quickly as American forces can today if there were a crisis in the region, such as missing nuclear material or weapons in Pakistan and India.

A senior administration official, asked about the preparations, responded by email on Sunday that as the possibility of a pullout “has grown in Afghanistan, we have been undertaking a methodical review of any U.S. capabilities that may be affected and developing strategies to mitigate impacts.”

The official added that the administration was determined to find alternatives, if necessary. “We will be forced to adapt,” the official said, “and while perhaps less than most efficient, the United States will find ways necessary to protect our interests.”

The issue is coming to the fore after the Pentagon recently presented Mr. Obama with two options for the end of the year. One option calls for a presence through the end of Mr. Obama’s term of 10,000 American troops who could train Afghan troops, conduct counterterrorism raids and protect the American facilities, including those in eastern Afghanistan where drones and nuclear monitoring are based.

Under the other, so-called zero option, no American troops would remain. The United States has said that if it is unable to reach a final security arrangement with Mr. Karzai, it is prepared, reluctantly, to pull out completely, as it did in Iraq in 2011.

Mr. Obama has made “no decisions” on troop levels, said Caitlin M. Hayden, the spokeswoman for the National Security Council. “We will be weighing inputs from our military commanders, as well as the intelligence community, our diplomats and development experts, as we make decisions about our-post 2014 presence in Afghanistan,” she said.

In his State of the Union address on Tuesday night, however, Mr. Obama is expected to say that by the end of this year the Afghan war will be over — at least for Americans — slightly more than 13 years after it began, making it the longest in American history.

Mr. Obama’s hope is to keep 8,000 to 12,000 troops — most of them Americans, some from allies — in Afghanistan after the NATO combat mission ends this year. The resurgence of Al Qaeda’s affiliate in Iraq, combining with insurgents in Syria, has offered a sobering reminder of the consequences of the American decision to withdraw all its troops from Iraq. Mr. Karzai seems to be betting that the damage that a withdrawal would do to American intelligence operations is so great that he may be able to strike a better deal.

Even though the zero option has few supporters in the administration, the idea has gained renewed credence with each day that Mr. Karzai delays signing the security accord and poses new demands to the United States. “Karzai has believed for some time that he has this leverage — that we need him and his bases more than he needs us,” said Daniel Markey, a former State Department official and the author of “No Exit From Pakistan,” published last year.

Secretary of State John Kerry is to meet Pakistan’s foreign and national security policy adviser, Sartaj Aziz, here on Monday, and counterterrorism operations are to be a major subject of discussion, a senior State Department official said Sunday. Talking with Pakistan about its nuclear program is especially delicate.

In recent years the country has accelerated its drive to build small tactical nuclear weapons — similar to what the United States placed in Europe during the Cold War — that could be used to repel an invasion from India. But those weapons are considered more vulnerable to theft or use by a rogue commander, and they are one reason that American intelligence agencies have invested so heavily in monitoring the Pakistani arsenal.

A scare in 2009, when the United States feared that nuclear materials or a weapon was missing in Pakistan, led Mr. Obama to order the basing of a permanent monitoring and search capability in the region.

But the complexities of bringing those capabilities to an end are forcing the intelligence agencies, which run the covert strikes into Pakistan and monitor nuclear events around the world, to scramble. Their base inside Pakistan was closed after a shooting involving a C.I.A. security contractor, Raymond Davis, and the raid into Pakistani territory that killed Osama bin Laden, both in 2011.

Crucial to the surveillance of Bin Laden’s house in Abbottabad was the use of an RQ-170 drone. Pakistani officials talked openly in the weeks after that raid about their fear that the unmanned aircraft was also being used to monitor their nuclear arsenal, now believed to be the fastest growing in the world. The raid, and those drones, came out of American facilities just over the Afghan border.

“You hear about the president’s decision of the ‘zero option’ in the context of the future of Afghanistan, but this is really more about Pakistan,” said one former senior intelligence official who has consulted with the Pentagon and intelligence agencies about the problem. “That’s where the biggest problem is.”

The C.I.A.’s drone bases in Afghanistan, including one in the eastern part of the country, allow operators to respond quickly to fresh intelligence. The proximity to Pakistan’s tribal areas also allows the Predator drones and their larger, faster cousin, the Reaper, to fly longer missions without having to return to base.

“There certainly is an interdependence between the military and the intelligence community in Afghanistan,” one senior administration official said.

The Reapers, the newest, largest and most capable of the unmanned armed vehicles, have a range of up to 1,100 miles. That puts Pakistan’s tribal areas within range of some bases the American military has flown from, especially in Kyrgyzstan, where for more than a decade the Pentagon has conducted air operations, include cargo and troop flights, out of a base at Manas. But the United States said last fall that it would pull out of that base in July.

Other allied countries are within the Reaper’s range — in the Persian Gulf, for example. But the distances would be too great to carry out drone operations effectively, officials said, and it is very unlikely that any of those nations would approve launching the diplomatically sensitive strikes missions from their soil.

“There’s no easy alternative to Afghanistan,” one former senior American counterterrorism official said.

Robert David STEELE Vivas
Robert David STEELE Vivas

ROBERT STEELE:  based on my 115 days in AF:

1) Pashtuns are now in the minority and also do not vote as aggressively as the minority tribes are learning to vote

2) Abdullah has done a lot of things right and I believe he has already cut a deal with the Taliban

3) Starvation seems to be setting in, if the people are hungry in March believe Abdullah wins.  Dostum is not happy where he is, he could jump at the last minute to seal the deal for Abdullah

4) Barshadost is the wild card — and a future action to recover all Pashtun lands from Pakistan is very possible as part of a larger regional deal backed by China, India, Iran and Russia, with the Arab Sunnis paying Pakistan to make it happen.

5) Military and business want US to stay in Kabul, but everyone wants the US out of the countryside and they agree with no night raids and no drones and no NINE air bases.

6) This is not 1992. There is a non-ISAF safety net focused on trade, transporation, water, and agriculture, and that safety net includes Iran-India, China saying no to Pakistan, Russia, and the Arabs with money — Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and UAE.  Turkey is playing both sides and will train law enforcement, France is very active in the provinces, bottom line is that US leaving AF is probably for the best. There was a time when the Taliban wanted the US to stay as a Military Advisory Group (MAG) but no foreign forces with weapons outside Kabul. Now, between the Taliban and Karzai, both Pashtun, both hugely scornful of the US military, a full departure with no slack may be in the offing.

7) Taliban is right — AF is wealthy and does not need US, which is more like a poisoned apple. Karzai and Rassoul have been planning for over two years for not signing the BSA, cutting very specific treaties with a wide range of countries, all of whom in the aggregate can easily make up for the lost and mostly military grants and income for the US.

The US has lost Afghanistan twice — first after the Soviets left and Congress refused to pay for the peace; and a second time when we substituted lies and the COIN mythology for sound statesmanship, solid economic assistance, and truthful information.  DIME? All the US put into Afghanistan was a counterfeit penny called ISAF.

Dunford is trapped in a bad system with a weak staff. Potter cannot do intelligence beyond track and whack, Dunford’s PAO is a lightweight with no clue, his IO staff is not able to do full spectrum IO (which is to say, hold the civilians accountable for the 75% that is not military), and MISTF, where I worked, is set in its ways and resistant to any change however slight. Within 30 days of arriving I was saying that the elections would take place on time and with adequate security, and that the BSA would not be signed — and suggesting changes in the prevailing IO themes. Twelve years, one year’s experience repeated twelve times in a row, the idiocy of empire reached a new low in AF…and continues today.  St.

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